LSU vs Open Date 1 Oct. 4, 2025

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houtiger

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News about the football program this week. Great frustration with the ineffectiveness of the offense vs OM last Saturday.

I checked and BK buyout is $62 million right now. If he is terminated without cause, we owe him 90% of his remaining contract, paid monthly. He's not getting fired anytime soon.
 
I agree, but there is a segment of the fan base that would disagree. I don't understand such an experienced head coach going with Sloan when Denbrock left. I'm guessing he understood he made another coordinator mistake like Matt House, after 1 year with Sloan, but Woodward told him to live with his mistake at least one more year.

"Sloan and Hankton will work on identical 3-year deals that pays $950,000 in 2024, $1 million in '25, and $1.1 million in 2026."
 
houtiger said:
I agree, but there is a segment of the fan base that would disagree.
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there is a segment of this fanbase that wanted Saban fired during the 2003 season, Les during the 2007 season, Les after the BCS CG in 2011, etc. etc.

houtiger said:
I don't understand such an experienced head coach going with Sloan when Denbrock left. I'm guessing he understood he made another coordinator mistake like Matt House, after 1 year with Sloan, but Woodward told him to live with his mistake at least one more year.
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we had a top 25 offense last year.
amazing? no.
but not many would call that a "mistake" that needs firing.


houtiger said:
"Sloan and Hankton will work on identical 3-year deals that pays $950,000 in 2024, $1 million in '25, and $1.1 million in 2026."
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chump change for assistants these days.
Sloan is something like 84th in the country as far as assistant salaries go.
 
houtiger said:
I don't understand such an experienced head coach going with Sloan when Denbrock left.
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My thought on this has to do with recruiting in northern Louisiana. We had years and years of top recruits from the northern part of the state going to Bama, A&M, and others.

Saban was the last coach we had that effectively recruited there and - unfortunately - that continued when he went to Bama. Sloan has a myriad of relationships with high school coaches there.

Given the lack of respect and affection many have for CBK, Sloan is an asset for recruiting North Louisiana for Kelly.
 
BK said in the summer this is the most talented team he's fielded since being here. He set the expectations high. Downplayed the NFL exit from the o-line. Clearly there is something wrong w/ the offense. OM figured it out. Rush 3 and drop 8. QB struggling to throw the ball and no run game or no commitment to it. I don't know enough about our offense to diagnose whether its personnel, play-calling, coaching etc. all of the above etc. But that is why we pay BK $9M+ to figure it all out. As of now, he's failed to do so or he has figured out it isn't easily fixable or can't be fixed at all with the current players. Make no mistake, that is his job though. Thus far he has failed to come close to articulating a credible explanation for what is happening (or isn't happening) with our offense. He will have an opportunity tomorrow to shed more light on what is going on.
 
Nutriaitch said:
we had a top 25 offense last year.
amazing? no.
but not many would call that a "mistake" that needs firing.
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We had 7 players drafted, 5 on offense, should have been 6 with Kyren Lacey. And we had no run game, with an NFL offensive line. That caused me concern, I was not comfortable with Sloan coming into this season. I had to trust that BK knew what he was doing. Now that looks like misplaced trust.

You no. 1 criteria in hiring a coach is NOT his connections to recruit in an area. If that was the case we would not have hired BK. The no. 1 criteria is the ability to do his primary job. If that is a coordinator, he has to define the scheme and be sure the position coaches are teaching players to execute their part of the scheme. If the coordinator is recognized in the business, has a proven track record of success, the players will want to play for him. Saban had a moderate track record when he got to LSU, been in the NFL and Mich St., he didn't have connections down here, but if he got in the living room with recruits he could tell them what they wanted to hear, and he quickly proved he was not lying. Then he could recruit like hell, based on his record of success and that is the best way to recruit.

My opinion, you don't make Sloan the OC because he has connections in N. La. We didn't know what we were getting with Sloan, but we knew we were not getting a nationally proven talent. Sometime a small college coach obviously is talented and it translates to the big time, but as often as not, it does not translate immediately. The Sloan hire was questionable, not proven, and it does not look like a good hire.
 
Herb said:
My thought on this has to do with recruiting in northern Louisiana. We had years and years of top recruits from the northern part of the state going to Bama, A&M, and others.

Saban was the last coach we had that effectively recruited there and - unfortunately - that continued when he went to Bama. Sloan has a myriad of relationships with high school coaches there.

Given the lack of respect and affection many have for CBK, Sloan is an asset for recruiting North Louisiana for Kelly.
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North Louisiana is not as talent laden as it was in the early 2000s when Don Shows was running WM and Evangel was strong.

NOLA and BR, even Lafayette, are the main talent bases now.

Saban even left there and recruited Amite and BR more in his later years coaching.
 
Open week has me busy.
Last night I made a game with two Katy Schools playing. Cinco Ranch and Jordan High. Score was tied 21 all. Cinco drove down inside the 5, 3 seconds on the clock. Field goal, a win for Cinco. The OC for Cinco is a good friend of mine. That’s the last two weeks in a row, they’ve won the game on their last drives.

After the game I met up with a coach that was on the Rice staff a few years back, with a bunch of coaches I know. Frank Okam, he the Assistant DL Coach for the Houston Texans. We talked a little about Danielle Hunter and Sting on their Defensive side of the ball. Along with Ed Ingram on their OL.

I just got off the phone with Johnny Nagle, he played at LSU years back, they are coming to Houston for the Houston /Texas Tech game tomorrow. Johnnys son Slade is the OC for Houston, Slade was on the staff last season with the Tigers.

On the Texas Tech staff is another former Tiger Lindsey Scott, he’s the QB’s Coach.

Johnny and crew are cooking a pot of Pastalaya, got an invite to join them. Going to make a point to meet up.
 
No game today. I will probably self flagellate (thanks spell check) and re-watch the OM game tonight. I see yard work in my future this afternoon.
 
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