2025 NCAA Playoffs

Herb

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Figured since we're bored waiting to see if we go to the Music City Bowl or the Liberty Bowl, we could talk about the playoffs we might have been in.

  • Who knew that the basketball state would have the #1 team going into the post season? Is this an alternate reality we're living in?
  • Does Bama deserve a spot (I say no)?
  • Does Ole Miss wind up in the top 4 with a 1st week bye?
  • Does Texas sneak in with 3 losses?
  • Is there a case for any of the 1 loss minor conference teams to make it in over some of the 2 and 3 loss major schools?
 
Texas isn’t getting in.

Bama is the tough one. Committee has always said they’ll try not to penalize a team for having to play an extra game.
But, Fuck Bama.

Ole Miss ain’t top 4
 
these people talking on the pre-selection show don’t even realize they’re pointing out this is way worse than what we once had and are trying to ruin it even more.

talking about eliminating Conference CGs.
seeing some of the big OOC games going away.
etc.

it’s now all about just “getting in”.
so just like what i’ve always hated about every sport not named college football, it’s all about the postseason. Regular season becomes “window dressing”.

They’re trying their hardest to get everyone in but ignoring the most obvious one … Don’t fucking lose!

Alabama, you want in? don’t get blown out twice in same season
Texas, you want in? don’t lose to a 4-8 Florida team.
Duke, you want to be in? hahahahahahahaha!
BYU, you want to be in? don’t get blown out twice by the only playoff team you’ve played this year.
 
also, for some reason Bama vs Florida State doesn’t matter because it happened in September.

but the Alabama vs Georgia regular season game should absolutely matter even though it happened in …..September.
 
Sorry Nick. there wasn’t “one team left out”
there was 4-5 teams let in that shouldn’t have.
 
I honestly think Vanderbilt deserved to be in over Alabama given that (in my opinion) Vanderbilt had a tougher schedule and the same number of wins as Alabama. Vanderbilt had the toughest SEC conference schedule.

Unfortunately, one of their 2 losses was to Alabama. (Which is probably why Notre Dame was left out in favor of Miami.) Alabama looked like utter crap in the SECCG.
 
I honestly think Vanderbilt deserved to be in
I honestly think there's 5 teams too many in the playoffs this year.

and YES, I can make a 7 team bracket work.

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In round 2, Indiana (as the 1 seed) gets the lowest remaining seed in the field.
other two teams play each other.
 
So Notre Dame has a 'memorandum of understanding' that goes into effect next year that if they are ranked in the top 12 in the final poll, they automatically get a playoff slot.


Kind of BS if you ask me. Why only Notre Dame? Will they cry foul if they are ranked 12th in the final AP poll but 13th in the playoff rankings?
 
So Notre Dame has a 'memorandum of understanding' that goes into effect next year that if they are ranked in the top 12 in the final poll, they automatically get a playoff slot.


Kind of BS if you ask me. Why only Notre Dame? Will they cry foul if they are ranked 12th in the final AP poll but 13th in the playoff rankings?


they want to treated as a conference champ without being a conference chanp
 
Eight teams probably is enough. I would not mind 12 teams if they went more on strength of schedule instead of just the record. Most folks would have rathered see Texas instead of James Madison and Notre Dame instead of Tulane. Nobody wants to watch a non-competitive game. After some yeaars, if nobody outside the top 8 ever makes it to the semi finals, they should end the experiment as a failure.
 
Eight teams probably is enough. I would not mind 12 teams if they went more on strength of schedule instead of just the record. Most folks would have rathered see Texas instead of James Madison and Notre Dame instead of Tulane. Nobody wants to watch a non-competitive game. After some yeaars, if nobody outside the top 8 ever makes it to the semi finals, they should end the experiment as a failure.
i would have stopped at 6, but willing to compromise and go to 8.

but the “brains” behind this horseshit will instead go to 16 to make sure Texas and ND get in instead of doing the right thing and cutting out teams that don’t belong.

hell, i’d come up with a way that the number of teams that get it isn’t a set in stone number and could fluctuate based on the season as it plays out.
 
I still think the old BCS ranking system would be better than what we have now. Now we have human prejudice fowling up the system. If we went with the BCS rankings and 8 teams, maybe 6, that would do it for me.

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Before the playoff era, the primary system was the
Bowl Championship Series (BCS) (1998-2013), which used a formula combining human polls (AP, Coaches) and computer rankings (multiple algorithms) to select the top two teams for a single national championship game, aiming for a #1 vs. #2 matchup, though it often faced controversy. Preceding the BCS were the Bowl Coalition (1992-94) and Bowl Alliance (1995-97), simpler systems also aiming for top-two pairings.

How the BCS Worked (1998-2013):

  • Polls: Included the USA Today Coaches Poll and the Harris Interactive Poll (later replaced by others).
  • Computers: Averaged several computer rankings (like Colley Matrix, Softening Point, Massey Ratings, Billingsley, Richard, Donaldson, and Anderson/Boudreau).
  • Formula: Teams were ranked by a "BCS Average," combining poll and computer points.
  • Outcome: The #1 and #2 ranked teams played in the BCS National Championship game
 
I still think the old BCS ranking system would be better than what we have now. Now we have human prejudice fowling up the system. If we went with the BCS rankings and 8 teams, maybe 6, that would do it for me.
there have been many BCS simulations since the start of the playoffs.
and with a very few exceptions, they match up with the committees picks. Even when switching to 12 teams, the 12 have been the same, with maybe 1 or 2 being in slightly different order.

In my Czar thread on the old site, I already fixed the entire damn thing.
but without an act of violence, I don't see them taking my advice.

"
Before the playoff era, the primary system was the
Bowl Championship Series (BCS) (1998-2013), which used a formula combining human polls (AP, Coaches) and computer rankings (multiple algorithms) to select the top two teams for a single national championship game, aiming for a #1 vs. #2 matchup, though it often faced controversy. Preceding the BCS were the Bowl Coalition (1992-94) and Bowl Alliance (1995-97), simpler systems also aiming for top-two pairings.

How the BCS Worked (1998-2013):

  • Polls: Included the USA Today Coaches Poll and the Harris Interactive Poll (later replaced by others).
  • Computers: Averaged several computer rankings (like Colley Matrix, Softening Point, Massey Ratings, Billingsley, Richard, Donaldson, and Anderson/Boudreau).
  • Formula: Teams were ranked by a "BCS Average," combining poll and computer points.
  • Outcome: The #1 and #2 ranked teams played in the BCS National Championship game

As mentioned (from my Czar thread), I would make a few easy tweaks to this system.
  • Stick with 6 computers, let the committee have a poll, and replace coaches poll with some other human poll.
  • ALL polls must show the "gap" between schools (we need to know if two schools are virtually tied for a spot or if one has a cushion above the school below it, etc)
  • ALL polls are 100% completely transparent. every computer formula will be available to the public. Every human poll will be up for questioning/debate in a public forum somewhere. I want any geek in his mom's basement able to double check the results.
  • Instead of removing the high and low from just computer polls, we remove the high and low from ALL polls (humans and computers combined).
  • I haven't figured in the math yet, but there will be a "bonus" type system for making it to and then another for winning a Conference Championship game. This bonus won't be so huge that it's a slam dunk to get you into playoffs, but will be enough to help if two team are really close to each other.

And as noted, the number of teams getting in each year can fluctuate depending on the season at hand.
and that number could potentially change throughout the month of November (ok, 1st weekend of December).

and YES, I can absolutely make a playoff bracket work with an odd number of teams. so no, you ain't getting in just "because we need X number to make the bracket work".

oh, and one more thing.

I'm eliminating conference tie-ins for bowl games.
we're going to give America the matchups they want to see regardless of conference affiliation.
This year as an example, 7 teams get in to the playoffs.
Then all those 2 and 3 loss teams ranked in the rest of the top 25 would play each other in Bowl games. In matchups we don't see very often (if at all).
 
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